We all witness how bad it is for healthy competition and progress. The basic approach would be that every user start with a selection of a store template (including own label option and menu creation capability's) and starts filling his store with own products and products found in the large collective database. When pressed, Turbosquid could give no clearer specification than "it is too similar". Hello, Chat with Support 24/7 there is low quality traffic on cgtrader and also became too much focused on 3d printing models so gets affordable if u have many low quality printable models of cheap prices. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. - Guides/Tips for sellers regarding prices/quality to minimize the undercutters problem. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. Yes indeed! Although in the beginning that meant the loss of a big part of income (being Turbosquid the biggest 3D content reseller), after just a few adjustment months from that specific point our sales in ALL the other marketplaces started to grow up to a point where we don't miss any income from the missing Turbosquid sales anymore, while 90% of "customer problems" suddenly disappeared. @tomislavveg, on the one hand i agree with you about that, but on the other hand if i would be looking for models i would almost certainly choose TS as my first choice and most likely as a last one before buying. As a game developer i will never buy a 3d models online since 95% are done on student version of software or pirated version. This conversation has me glued to my monitor, all very well spoken and nailed down to the core. Hopefully that would make squids to react. Also, trying to find an item that I already saw through the search is near impossible. I'm not a modeler, I come here to buy models and this site is surprisingly obtuse when it comes to layout. It is the best RR in the world ! The fact that you can upload models immediately rather than waiting 3 months for them to get reviewed by some random people that won't have the time + the website design and the community inside CGTrader. I mean the good/bad rating left by buyers. TurboSquid. In fact, any properly textured model over 5000 polys for less than 15 bucks is NOT okay, and does NOT look professional at all. And it offers a more strategic dimension. I'm always in favor for more options and less restrictions. Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. TS management is by far the worst in history, they are great at Hostile take overs, yet bad at dealing with the realities of industry, i stopped all my affiliate links with TS and right now i'm sharing only the links for my products on CGT and Art station. Saied this couple of times in the past, leverage the difference in royalty to provide a slightly better offer over here, otherwise customers hoe have a Ts account will see no need to make one here to buy same model for same price. To bad this place is ridiculously expensive, you only get 33% of your sales. They have a CheckMate program which gives you a higher percentage back from selling your model. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. Being between a rock (TS) and a hard place (CT) is a damn round the clock aggravation. The "crap models", "under-priced models" issue is a very sensitive topic that should be discussed. its hard to run such a business so i hope cgtrader will survive in the future. [quote]1. Hell, I even remember writing years ago to Matt Wisdom (TS Founder & CEO), Beau Perschall (VP of Business Dev) and other people at the management staff about the "no-brainer" choice for sellers regarding going exclusive into the "Squid Guild" or not, because after a group of sellers collected our stats and compared our earnings (for similar periods of time being exclusive and not) all of us ended with the clear conclusion that we were losing revenue being exclusive to TS instead of selling in all markets no single answer was received from any TS management staff member. Hmm, i went to your profile and i see no negative feedback. [13google->http://www.google.com/] Hi adentonclark, Let me explain - I like the look of the models here, but the site is even designed so end users, like me, can't even download more that 10 "free" items unless they've uploaded models of their own, written tutorials, posted topics to the forum (which is difficult if you're not an actual modeler) and/or jumped through about 1,500 other ridiculous hoops to get enough "reputation" points. A own store where you can fill your offers with stuff found in the large pool would account for a thumbs up for the people hoes products get placed in those stores. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. According to TS "Marmoset Toolbag's watermark" is an overlay and a no no. I sell my shipping container which is professional model according to my buyers reviews . TurboSquid be avoided guys! It still remains a puzzle to me, were those few now actually using their CGt account because there was no other way or did I just lose those and just gained some new clients from somewhere ells? I wish someday Turbosquid disappear or bankrupt. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. I had hoped that CGTrader would want to be the kings but i have to be honest if you licence a thing only here you have to own it forever, as you cannot sell that licence. A good ref point is that your average laptop with Dual Pentium 2 gigahertz processor 8 GB of ram will start having issues when running over 200,000 polygons. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, + c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. I have always been amazed at how TS can pull off their selling stunt, I've got better stuff AND cheaper on here than on TS but the sales over there totally dominate. Our "power struggles" with Turbosquid stopped the moment Matt Wisdom banned our account and we stoped doing business, however that doesn't alter our will to expose this kind of business practices. On TS depends on the country you come for, you get around 30% of your earnings (this is how much you get on your account, I know it is stated 60% but they take additional 30% for US tax), here I am not shore how much you get as I just joined and did not made any sales. 3D is great for creating things that can restore old products. Typically, large corporate buyers, they find a way to contact me even and on TS and make an offer on a specific project. Maybe it is unnecessary complex? https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/character/woman/female-hand-realistic https://www . Does anyone sale something on Cgtrader?where are customers. The problem is that the site is not able to get a clear separation between CG and 3D printing. Turbosquid has too many models Regarding sales, for me personally CGtrader is in lead with a small margin for almost 5 months in row now, I'm confident the difference will get even bigger (so let's be realistic Ts sales is dropping dramatically). :). I want to say the following. But they can still contact the artist for fixing issues directly here on CGTrader. I can't imagine that competing sellers would go for such things as you described, but who knows, there are plenty nuts all around :]. From buyer perspective, i think CGTrader also have lots of advantages. CGT needs to get on Amazon a.s.a.p or partner with all the top leading commercial comps in order to make 3D more interesting to more buyers. https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/industrial/other/shipping-container--4. However, if you are found to be out of compliance again, your collection will be taken offline for a more extended period of time. I started uploading on a few sites and TS was one of them and I can tell you now that that place is a mess. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. Checkmate is the only good thing Turbosquid has left to offer. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. This is from my own personal experience. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/d7b76144-43db-4cbe-b27b-8ea42b3a7cb0/TurboSquid_Low_Sales.png Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? when cgtrader change his frontpage i stop selling products bad :(. It certainly is an interesting read all together, thanks for documenting it so well and make the whole thing public, although I hope you don't stay embarked on a power struggle whit Ts management. That's why I won't model one single model for online sale until this heinous situation is rectified. I think posting links to showcase your model in an animation or to show how a rig works is extremely advantageous. My opinions have evoluted over the months. The advance search option should obviously only be available for paid models so to avoid people only free loading and just finding all the free models. Im convinced now that when I would reactivate my Ts account I will just have a bit less sales here and get some sales over there, could be wrong but I don't care, 60% cut is ridicules and on top of that price guarantee is just total madness. Guys really have the potential to screw greedy monopoly and earn some decent position on the market. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. (I prefer not to learn/spent time to handle all the different 3D applications and conversions) Send of two customers so far (here on CGt), hoe asked for a maya version of this model. with the recent requirements to upload a 3D product on TS, CGT became my number one no doubt, i'm not gonna wast half my life rendering turntables that wouldn't make much of a difference when every seller is doing the same thing. Marius Kalytis (founder of this place) was a 3D artist himself and took notice of the questionable policy's the established market had adopted (leaving room to do it differently). Also don't forget that people sell their photos and posters too. TurboSquid has stopped working in WM and lost some buyers in the middle East countries and Asia. Bangalore Escort While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. I really think that a "designer good practices charter" or something like that could help. Dear adentonclark, Yes, buyers has free will to express their opinion about model, but in case of negative feedback such opinion should be reasonable and motivated. I have noticed that a lot of artists are moving to Asia to find jobs where they are far better respected and paid what they are worth. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. I like, CG Trader is ascent. And if the buyer sees one and the same model on CGT and on TS, then the price will choose on CGTrader I doubt the owner will say no to a hefty clump sum, no questions asked, in exchange for site keys and source. Here is a quick test that can help understand why there aren't so many buyers. Honestly, who wants to buy nudes anyway? Buyer can contact seller directly, which can save him/her lot's of time and frustrations. TurboSquid is not a company that practices any kind of #FairBusiness, and there is many other cases from other people stating the same for different reasons: Bottom line is if people are used to buying from TS they won't buy here because they need to use a different system so let's create our own client base. CGTrader is extremely accessible, perhaps too much so for its own good in some lights. I got a bunch of scanned statues sold for 3D printing, some sci-fi characters that are obviously copyright infringements because made from movie licences, and, at the best, less than 1/2 of original characters models, many of them not being displayed because of "adult content". It is a wonder how people still haven't fixed bugs like that after so many years and it made the whole uploading process a total hassle. It doesn't matter if the printing industry is growing fast. (I'm aware this involves many aspects) rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, Realistic Human Body Basemesh - UVMapped - Rigged, CARTOON MAN AND WOMAN - TOON MOTHER AND FATHER, Worker Mining Safety Female - Bella - Harness, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair. ;), My thoughts exactly.. 3d Printing could be very profitable (for CG Trader, and the modelers) How about Negotiated price? This would have probably be true for newcomers 5 years ago, but now that is different. It seems to me that over time a CGTrader will be able to overtake TurboSquid in many positions, if TS does not change its policy. Looks to me like they are providing a very content creator friendly environment. I don't get paid until the 3rd, but I thought I'd download some things, look at their quality, fill up a cart and get prepared to purchase when the money comes around. because CGTrader team quickly investigate and decided to remove the bad Feeback. CG Trader is easier to navigate, more stimulating perhaps than turbo squid. And CG Trader offers up to 94% royalty rate, where as Turbo Squid gives I believe 60% royalty rate CG Trader more open than Turbo Squid, and when registering, requires less personal information. "This is new era, time of old fashioned corporatism is going to be over. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. Plus, as I saw in another post, turbosquid does not let you post any links. So the staff there tries to work Agree with every word above. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. Turbosquid.com4. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". And it is convenient for the buyer and profitable for the seller. However, fear of losing sales kept me both on Ts and CGt for long time (not liked it). If you manage to get lots of buyers on there you could make a real fortune. The reason the model is sold at low price .some models have so many other sellers which can lose models value . I can't download that lamp and see it's quality myself - so why would I purchase anything from the creator when I don't know if I'll be satisfied? These people quote Sun Tzu when you talk to them, so guess their future plans for you. [quote]2. Ps. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. Tom cat cartoon character rigged for Maya 12. I make very nice sale here, and several each month, not as much as TurboSquid, but with 85% royalties I'm not complaining. If you look around on the net on all the various forums everyone always mentions Turbosquid be it positively or negatively. Anyway, there is still some ocasional Turbosquid fanboy that bashes CGtrader and promotes Turbosquid in public forums and social media while writes this in TS forums at the same time: I'm planing to start new discussion on this topic in near future, so i won't go into details here, i'll just ask did anybody tried to enter same keywords in TS and CGT search field? rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Naked Fitness Blonde Woman with Tied Hair, max c4d unitypackage upk max ma c4d max ma fbx max. In 2020, I've opened a CGT account and start selling interesting 3D Models. In fact I hope that once buyers begin to see the difference in quality on this site they will jump ship but the thing that still trips up CGTrader is the consumer confidence. They say you can price things anyway you want but then they take down your models if they do not agree with how you price them. I think I like the another item the modeler has created (Modern Villa), but that item is $40. For some people with experience that did the math taking all factors in count (not talking about just NoneCG, of course) it was crystal clear since many years ago. They lie about your rights on Turbosquid. Answer: IN my opinion Turbosquid is a great site for selling models. Large studios with "turbosquid" collaborate very limitedly. The entire way of setting up your model seems backwards and chaotic. Important detail : CGTrader allows communication between customers and sellers ! Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. f9acb067-ba84-4d38-8a65-8d3c4249a700Zoom.jpg httpswww.turbosquid.com3d-modelsfemale-rigged-3d-model1041167 --GENERAL-- This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. Chat with Support 24/7 Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. I'm suggesting a collective of store owners. I know I personally would be Heh.. that's another topic but my top selling model is nude. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. Maybe there is something behind the scenes what you can't know or can't tell? - Limiting, perhaps, the number of objects that can be uploaded in a row, to avoid having the front page confiscated by a single seller when ticking the "newest" filter. - Do you think that a company like Turbosquid, managed by/for corporate funding with clear monopolistic intentions is more likely to improve your situation as a content creator in the future? CGTrader. If you are a buyer you don't have a lot of time to find what you want especially if you are buying on behalf of your company. Then we're all back at Square one again. I really enjoy the chance to get to know other people's opinions and experiences regarding how they sell, network and do business and that is something I have only been able to do here on CGT. I think CGTrader just has to advertise itself more.. everything else will fall into place.. CG traders designer rank rep points. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. You want to put it in your store but it obviously needs some work to make it marketable. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. @interate CGI . TS going down. We state our opinions based on verifiable facts and stats, which is one of the most interesting parts of this thread. The next thing CGT needs to do is get in with Ebay, Amazon, walmart etc places where everyone buys not just 3D enthusiasts and that regular people trust with their money. This is a photorealistic high-quality 3D full-body scan female character, rigged People SixPack 003 - Photogrammetry Population Character Rig, max blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, City People x500 Static Poses Lowpoly ArchViz, 20x LOW POLY CASUAL ELEGANT SITTING WOMAN MAN PEOPLE CROWD, Realistic White Male and Female Head Bundle. Fact is and I have been saying it for years is that there is a super limited amount of people who care about 3D. i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller Nice try. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. I remember that too! And in terms of openness and freedom CGTrader is the first. I have been studying their website from a buyers perspective thoroughly and I have noticed that; 1. That is a big killer for licencing anything here that you intend to sell the licence for, leaving me with having to licence at Thingiverse first then using CGTrader as advertising or selling copies of the files only. Site issues? It is pretty difficult to find what you want but if you are only looking for free models then CGTrader's search engine is far better than Turbosquid. Over the years they have shown me that they really care about we think about the way things should be run and they have been adapting the website based on our combined ideas. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. Part of it is because they don't want to get scammed. If I compare him with the founder of Ts, then it becomes clear to me we have a completely different relationship. Don't know how many even bother to ask, and on Ts no one can ask anything. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. taken offline. That is the most important reason for them to be on CGtrader and it is essential to reward them for helping artist and the site earn money. At the moment i think its more a community of sellers and not so much of buyers. The other issue is that Turbosquid has been out there for longer. People may think that having that option makes it more likely for sellers to see their work by placing their models in the incorrect category but actually that just irritates buyers who may just go elsewhere to buy. This way we let buyers know that cgtrader got some interesting stuff. This industry really needs a giant hub were al CGpeople (weather young and inexperienced ore diehard veterans) can communicate, learn, trade, fundraise and collaborate. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. @ Supercigaleha, ha, a good point about ,,the famous CheckMate,, :) TS . We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. Alhamdulillah, we finished making the car! This is a bit OT, but although I obviously ain't a squidguild member, I always try to design objects that are "checkmate" compliant to be sure that my models are OK, and I also beta test the .OBJ version in a lot of other applications that LW to be sure that they upload without hassle) And some may post a part of a set, and ad a link to the complete set, others may just do it to spread their work and name, etc. You are right IterateCGI it would be terrible for the photo realistic 3D models however if you think about it not that many 3D artists create things in that style and in some cases are capable of doing that especially some of the newbies. Products are subject to the TurboSquid, Inc. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. This is hight quality female model with animation friendly topology. Same with copyright infringements, same with low quality models (a friend of mine bought recently a model here, which was supposed to be .OBJ compatible : but the seller had just exported the obj from its original program, without even editing the mtl file to have the textures loaded automatically ! Look for the big picture and think medium/long term. I can easily imagine that serious clients who value their time very high, might choose TS over CGT without second thought. I have been the victim repeatedly on TS. Matt Wisdom describes Turbosquid as "a sort of Ebay" when in fact Turbosquid works exactly the same as classic "supermarket providers" where the reseller profits the most from the producers by keeping them totally apart from the customers. From moment I have enough things to sell here, I would come clean with myself and close my TS account with great pleasure. Well, after a long search, I found a negative point from CGTrader compared to TS. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, + blend c4d xsi ma lwo 3ds dae dxf fbx obj X, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification).

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