locking the two-piece assembly in place. The word itself 'HIPO' is a shortening in German of HIlfs-POlizei (i.e. These bayonets were carried by all Police, and since Germany was a Police State, there were a lot of them. stamping, there is enough room to the left of the defined and enhanced rectangular cartouche type enclosed S. H.133. -techn. The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols book publications picture and describe cut-back artillery Luger holsters as specifically modified for police Luger carry, there are no Luger book published, period pictures of German Police with a cut-back artillery Luger holster, nor with any standard, non-police P.08 type Luger holster. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.H. Many of its members (for example S.Al.II 1. The blade was shortened from 17 inches to 13 inches. WaA107 Mndungsschoner, circa 1934 1937, Pictured is another variation 1 muzzle protector in the collection stamped 2866. unidentified police marking that has been partially obscured and covered with X marks and a small, unidentified police inspection stamp. Per Luger collectors the E/Mg10 marking is rarely encountered. Die neue Polizii, welche grunstzlich fr den Uusendienst bestimmt und uniformiert ift, versieht nicht nur den allgemeinen Sicherheitsdienst, fondern hat auch fr die Frhaltung der Ordnung, Ruhe und Reinlichteit, fr die Bertehrsregelung, fr die uissere heilghaltung der Sonn= und Feiertage, das Gesangenentransportwesen und schlieslich fr die Beachtung der wirtschastsportwesen Grundstze Sorge zu tragen. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- A rank of 1,000,000 means the last copy sold approximately a month ago. Einwohnerwehr in 1921. and Band II or Volume II published in 1921 Weimar Germany with the cover title: Das Lehrbuch fr die Polizeischulen or The textbook for the police schools. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. The thumb safety is marked "Gesichert" and when exposed (1096) NOTE: Photographs taken today K.W.K. Please report any errors to me. Akah made commercial holsters in the 1920s and 1930s with some used by the Germen Polizei. To the best of our knowledge, all the examples shown are original pre-1945 manufacture. The E/WaAJL16 is, by all accounts to date, similar to, or a variation of, the acceptance stamp for Factory Guard/Werkschutz issue. When identified, either gold or silver, some dated and maker marked, these Prussian State Police belt buckles are described as officer belt buckles and this is somewhat supported as many pictures exist of Weimar Police with ordinary belt buckles. Interestingly, that is maybe why the upper brass stud was added to the subject cut-back unidentified maker Artillery holster, simply to allow the cleaning rod cover flap to close over the cleaning rod handle, as the cover flap secured to the lower brass stud is clearly stressed, even without an inserted cleaning rod and definitely could not close with an inserted cleaning rod. Pictured is a brown leather 1929 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst K police inspection stamp and marked L.G. All Rights Reserved, Lugers! (motor transport seciont), Sonderwagenstaffel der Kraftfahrabteilung (armored vehicle squadron), Polizei-Reitschule (police equestrian school), Assigned to MAUSER 1942 BANNER POLICE EAGLE L LUGER RIG - Z52521 9mm Luger; 95% blue, excellent bore, very good grips, 4"'' barrel, Bright original finish with light scratches. Mauser or the Police HQ in Berlin? Additionally, hand written in pencil on the wooden cover is Fehrenbach, which is an area in Germany. All the axis pistols are gone now except some Italian berettas and I have four lugers now. Since this ammo is rare, it is considered to be collectible ammunition. collar assembly to be aligned with forward main PREUEN marked eagle, round belt buckle, gold or silver, has been identified. Pictured is an exceptional example of one such Police officer private purchase, unmarked and unmodified Weimar era Police clamshell dress bayonet. 45aand Berlin government dissolved the Einwohnerwehr. ----------------------------------------------------------- page 9 ----------------------------------------------------------. Many combinations of eagles and numbers are noted. Pictured below are several Police Training and Instruction manuals dating from 1921 through 1949. This rare M1908 Commercial Army P.08 variation is described in great detail on page 25, Figure 18 of Imperial Lugers 1991 by J. links[3]='http://www.marnamilitaria.com'; 13005 or Schutzpolizei Berlin property number stamping located on the holster rear, to the right of the belt loops, with the Hannover and Berlin districts being 283 kilometers apart. 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The conclusion being that there are a variety of styles/shapes and size of brass studs used by the many different WW1 leather makers of LP08 Artillery holsters and as such, it is difficult to dismiss any of these original period brass studs as aftermarket, not German or not used with Artillery holsters. Pictured are two 1933 Robert Larsen Police holsters with and without the E/Mg10 eagle and multiple views of the subject Police holster, being view 1, view 2, view 3 and view 4. What unit markings are on the pistol? Receiver proof, some 1920 Military and Police Lugers. Captain Ernst Roehm, future head of the SA [Sturmabteilung, a.k.a. Pictured is another variation 1 style police S. B. Faint, illegible makers markings are stamped inside the cover flap. Compare the above to this World War I 1917-dated DWM Artillery Luger with the more appropriate German markings. Also, the large double crown U Mauser receiver proof was used for a short time only, less than a year, according to one Luger expert. On the rear cover the books contents are further described as: official guide for Prussian police officers. In actuality, a really rhetorical issue, as except for the two pictured and discussed holsters, being the only known published examples noted to date. centered in the federal states of Prussia, Bavaria, Baden, Wuerttemberg, Army, Navy, Police, The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Normally, as stated above, these cut-back artillery holsters utilized a toe plug, in this case the subject holster is about of an inch longer, allowing the leather smith enough materiel to fold over the toe opening, mostly conforming to the 1929 and later police holsters. police cleaning rods, describes them as: Original invaluable source of information about the often obscure markings found on Note: Air surveillance departments controlled by the provincial revolutionaries. which Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. Take care and thanks for the quick response. is the only police instruction manual to mention the muzzle protector and its intended use with the cleaning rod and the 4mm sub caliber barrel insert. Knowledge is power, this applies to everyone who is in public life and strives forwards, but especially for the police officers, because his job brings him into close contact with the population every hour. This statement appears to be somewhat contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig. 127; view 1, N.b.5. (A fairly common occurrence.) The first pictured example of a multiple conversion of an artillery to police holster conversion was done to a 1918 dated Dingeldey & Werres-Berlin artillery holster. Sturgess in TBLAP also states that the new police cleaning rods were issued to each police pistol, further stating in the Fig. letters and numbers, and the information presented here addresses just The breech is stamped 1920 and the center toggle has DWM monogram on it. Additionally, it seems incongruous that a 1920s post WW1 manufacture brass stud was added or replaced when clearly period correct brass studs were available as attested by the added brass stud, while the apparent goal was to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and cover flap to accommodate a Police cleaning rod as the lower replaced brass stud would clearly interfere with the insertion of a Police cleaning rod. In the publication History Writ in Steel by Don Maus 2009, chapter 6, page 86, Figure 6-6 discusses and shows a similar marked, cut-back artillery holster, unfortunately, showing only the holster marking, not the holster, leaving the exact configuration of the holster unknown, thus making the subject, uniquely modified holster, the only known published example. Retains the cleaning rod pouch along the leading edge. Police unit marked on the back is S.B.13.435 (Municipal Police, Berlin unit 13) as described by the seller. These cut-back LP.08 holsters were used or at least modified/converted until 1928 when a new style of police holster was introduced without a holster spine attached cleaning rod sleeve, replacing it with a spare magazine pouch. He must have the intellectual armament for his exercise of the environment so completely that he always meets the right. Pictured is a 1943 dated SCHAMBACH & Co. -BERLIN police holster with a unique eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police B inspection stamp; view 1, view 2 and view 3. Pictured is a 1942 dated A. Fischer Berlin C.2 police holster with an eagle over circled Nazi Swastika police inspection stamp; view 1 and view 2. The 1920 dated and double dated rework Lugers (DWM and Erfurt) are in the "Lugers - DWM Commercial 1898-1929" Gallery. These cut-back, modified/converted artillery LP.08 holsters are discussed in Weimar Lugers by J. An identical pistol variation is aptly described in Pistole Parabellum by Gortz/Sturgess, 2011 & 2012, V2, C23, P606, figure 546 text caption. As always, I'm not responsible for any inaccuracies in the data, just for Example 2. Specifically, the reason, thought to be for the exact length of the cleaning rod shaft from the tip to the brass stop of 135mm when inserted through the 4-inch barrel installed muzzle protector, extending though the barrel, is meant to end flush to the chamber face. II. What am I missing here? It is interesting that the well-known Luger dealer that sold the Sturgess cut-back LP.08 holster had to be aware of the cleaning rod issue as the text description, while generally describes the changes to the holster cleaning rod pouch, tactfully avoids the obvious fact that a police cleaning rod with a brass stopper will not fit. The Treaty of Versailles (through the IMKK) restricted the size of Weimar This is division marked WW3009=Wilhelmshaven Dockyard gun #3009 on the back strap. Even though considerably outnumbered, the Riff inflicted nearly six times the number of casualties on the Spanish and French than they suffered. links[4]='http://www.theoldbrigade.co.uk'; This example is a very rare 1943 dated military contract piece in 9mm, one of just 300 produced that year. The issue date of this unknown maker Police pistole cleaning kit is post 1945, as after World War II as Wrttemberg was in the newly-founded States of Wrttemberg-Baden and Wrttemberg-Hohenzollern. The kit is decidedly different in construction and contents from the official Reinigungsgert 34 & R.G.34 fr Kal. With his permission, I have posted it below. Pictured is a black leather 1935 dated Franz Cobau Berlin holster with an circled K police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number S.P.R. He should work on the internal corsage, promote public security, order and tranquility and, above all, give every citizen the opportunity to fulfill his moral duty to exercise his intellectual and physical strength to the full. It is not This is even if the cleaning rod got past the upper, definitely added brass stud. An examination of the P. Braunleder Cln cleaning rod pouch/sleeve brass stud shows a completely different shape of style and size of either of the two different lower and upper brass stud shapes of the subject cut-back Artillery to Police holster. 3 days Left DWM 1914 MILITARY UNIT MARKED LUGER SEMI-AUTO. Regarding the S. H.133. $500. links[7]='https://www.marnamilitaria.com'; . SIG Sauer Tango MSR Optic Review: Your Value & Performance LPVO. 4 days Left 18th Century Wooden Box with Brass Handle. eagle proof differs from recognized Police Luger eagle stamped holsters, which are usually not associated with E/WaA control numbers. This example has all matching serial numbers. These unique Prussian State Police belt buckles are most often found in gold but have also been observed, as noted above, in this type of silver and were used during the Weimar Era and for a few years into the Nazi era until they were replaced with the standard police buckle with large swastika. There are several markings on the holster. Prussian Police (Schutzpolizei) by directive 5 April 1922. He who lives by the sword, should train with it frequently. 13. RIA has no less than 19 rare Krieghoff Lugers including commercial and Luftwaffe military contract guns. Geit dem Frscheinen der ersten Uuslage im Febraur d. Zs. empire and the Prussian constitution have already seen some important additions: further laws are expected in the near future. Still. the transcription. These HZA markings, excluding the WaAJL16 stampings which, as Costanzo states was specifically used by police forces guarding warehouses operated by the Heerszeugment. The magazine has a non matching serial number. The is a 9mm, all matching police luger. The missing upper left corner of the left grip is part of the mag safety modification. One of the belt loops appears to be replaced. Zone railway police used an earlier, relatively obscure 7.65 m/m caliber, FN Model 1922 pistol. The subject WaAJL16 stamped Police style holster is the first one of two noted examples with the second WaAJL16 stamped holster being a P.08 Army style holster which has generated much collector speculation and opining. Note that the first photo posted by Ron has the same missing corner. Heinrich Krieghoff - Suhl, Germany At least six pre-production Lugers are known to exist. Potsdam=Eiche, im Juni 1921. Pictured is a brown leather 1935 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a TP or Technische Polizeischule property stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 7691;view 1, view 2 and view 3. There is one other cut-back artillery LP.08 holster converted to a P.08 similar style holster, except that it is unmarked and, as such, cannot be associated with police use. This was naturally discontinued with the dissolution of the Estimated Price: $ 8,500 - $ 14,000 Price Realized: Outstanding World War II Nazi 1941 Dated Single Digit Serial Number 3y Mauser Banner Eagle/L Police Luger Semi-Automatic Pistol with Two Matching Magazines and 1941 Dated Police Holster Manufacturer: Mauser Model: P08 Type: Pistol Gauge: 9 mm Luger Barrel: 3 7/8 inch round Finish: blue (he Americans actually did the same thing as most American Regiments did not have a "I" Company, but skipped from "H" Company to "J" Company) Constanzo got this one completely wrong, and the marking is definitely from the late '30's not '20s, and please disregard nonsense about the building # assignments. issued to a unit; e.g., the 351st P08 pistol issued to the Schutzpolizei 19-105, formally of the Dr. G.L. S.B.S.I 1.7 - item 7 in the 1st Centuria within command I of the South Pictured is a brown leather 1934 dated Robert Larsen Berlin police holster with a Weimar era Sunburst L police inspection stamp and P08 pistol issue number or serial number 6710; view 1 and view 2. We talked to a subject matter expert who repairs WW1 / WW2 h Thanks, Dwight, for setting the record straight about these blank toggles. No examples noted. Faint illegible ink stamp inside the flap (Zeitz?). It is the Eagle/Mg10 stamping that requires explanation. Apparently, all post 1926 police style holsters were not made exclusively for the German Police as unmarked commercial Police style holsters have been identified. Einwohnerwehr had a membership of hundreds of thousands and was jeb111. Landjaegerei (rural constabulary), Assigned to Pictured are multiple views of the above mentioned 1908/13 Commercial-Army-Police P.08 Luger, s/n 69859. states the following regarding this variation. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force are contained in 45a and in The Borchardt & Luger Automatic Pistols a.k.a. Helping Police). Lot 0478, Jan 14, 2023. The weirdest part is the stamp on the inside back panel. those pertaining to German police units in the Weimar and early Nazi era. Buy GERMAN LUGER P08 POLICE MAGAZINE WITH DOVE MARKING EARLY POLICE VERY RARE: GunBroker is the largest seller of WW1 & WW2 Collectibles Collectibles & Militaria All: 961041063 . A community dedicated to Lugers, Central Powers, Axis, Allied and related WW-I and WW-II pistols by their scholars, collectors, owners and enthusiasts. Another vexing issue is Weimar photos that shows groups of NCO Police with a mix of ordinary belt buckles and rectangular box style Weimar Prussian eagles and other Weimar Police photos of what looks to be all NCO personnel with ordinary belt buckles, suggesting the vast majority of Weimar era Police wore plain belt buckles. The following tables list the base forms for police unit marks found in German Small Arms Markings From Authentic Sources by J. Goertz and D. Bryans, Walsworth Publishing Co., Marceline MO, USA, 1997. Additionally, by restricting the insertion of the cleaning rod end, with affixed Reinigungsgdocht[6] or cleaning wick flush to the chamber face, prevents it from becoming detached, which could happen with a longer cleaning rod extending beyond the barrel/receiver chamber face. Pictured is a similar aftermarket P08 and police stick-wing acceptance stamped muzzle protector disassembled. The holster was dyed black as evidenced on the holster body back panel original brown color. It is also pictured as part of a police grouping consisting a period 1928 dated Police manual titled: 1928 Nr.7,1 Vorschrift fr die Waffenausbildung der Shutzpolizei or 1928 Nr.7,1 Regulations for the weapons training of the Police and an excellent condition example of the earliest new manufacture, pre-1925 first pattern, Weimar era Police Luger holster along with a 1929 Police Luger, rear gripstrap marked L.W.58 (Landjgerei Wiesbaden, weapon number 58) with original, unmodified magazine and sear safety and an extremely rare circa 1930s Prussian State Schutzpolizei Police Nickel Silver or Maillechort belt buckle marked FREISTAAT PREUSSEN or Free State of Prussia. It has no maker mark nor datePresumably a commercial. 351 pages. Im Strasrecht haben ebensalls injngster Zeit z. L. erhebliche Umwlzungen stattgesunden. Knowing that, and having the history of the Pictured is a disassembled view of the subject aftermarket P08 marked and police stick wing acceptance stamped, variation 1 muzzle protector. Dealers description: Conversion from an artillery pattern holster, no legible markings. Simson & Company - Suhl, Germany&break;4. swiveling wooden barrel shaped handle, implying the police cleaning rods are a stand-alone tool. administrative district, Enumeration of centuria, or factory numbers, or property numbers, Berlin Apparently, as to whether to modify the cleaning rod pouch/sleeve and or cover flap of a cut-back Artillery to Police holster to accommodate a Police cleaning rod is necessary, all depends on the availability multiple makers of used and unused WW1 Artillery holsters to different Artillery holster leather makers in 1920s Germany that were available to a host of leather craftsmen to be refurbished for Police use. The first toggle link is marked with the Mauser Commercial Banner Code. From the Dr. Geoffrey Sturgess collection. The fourth is a very early 3-digit, circa 1930 production DWM/Mauser commercial/Police Luger serial number 873V. These consisted of the following city and pistols were rejected at the acceptance procedure it would explain that these were replaced with some pistols in the v block. The IMKK, Inter-Alliierte Militaer-Kontroll-Kommission (Inter-Allied Regarding the completely intact magazine safety of 4559t, very few of these police Lugers survived as nearly all of these magazine safety assemblies were deactivated by cutting off the front end of the mechanism under a decree of May 1937. two-step attachment process, requiring 1) a threaded, slotted, circular Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. Opinion 2: I'm convinced that this is an Air Factory Werkschutz holster. A very similar style of eagle can be found on Gewehr 98 rifles. information presented here, but they indicate which unit(s) the materiel Thread Tools: Display Modes 4 days Left WW2 ERA GERMAN POLICE LUGER HOLSTER RIG $150 . The S.E.I. The holster, shown with pistol, is unusual as it was made without a loading tool pouch under the cover flap and the cover flap lacks a keeper for the holster body attached closing strap. But you must recognize that; being a researcher yourself! Pictured together for comparison are a Police cleaning rod with a brass stopper and a navy cleaning rod. Click here for translation of first page of volume II. section), Baustaffel der That will teach me not to depend on my memory! -techn. and - S. H. 133. are hidden, being located under the cover flap, whereas other identified, non-holster Hannover markings, such as Police P08s are prominently marked. Pages 108 and 216 of Costanzo's World of Lugers Proof Marks "1930-1936 stamps placed on firearms designated to be used for training purposes. Luger DWM 1906 Navy, 9mm, 2nd issue. Der herausgeber. Ventura, CA 93006, USA.) Abtlg. This interference issue varies from barrel to barrel, curiously, to both police and non-police P.08 9mm Lugers, depending on the width of the sight blade sliding base. droop-wing eagle over WaA107 army inspection stamp located on the right side flat. In addition, the Guide provides guidance on wages and pension issues for the police. These figure on the Mauser inventory listings of 09/30/1930 and 09/30/1930. Nachr. The base forms of the unit marks for this police force were ammended in Thanks. This is an apolitical forum for discussions on the Axis nations and related topics hosted by the Axis History Factbook in cooperation with Christian Ankerstjernes Panzerworld and Christoph Awender's WW2 day by day. It is speculated that the shift was also motivated by the need to communicate with occupied territories during WW2 and the use of Fraktur would inhibit that communication. officially discontinued. the same style holster pictured with a 1920 chamber stamped commercial/Army/Police Luger 70319. is an identical holster in the collection, 1908/13 commercial/military/police, no chamber date Luger, serial number 69859. separate view of 69859 serialized in the hidden commercial style. with LANDESPOLIZEI [7] (State Police) FR WRTTEMBERG-HOHENZOLLERN[8] marked on the S.B.13.435 - Berlin unit 13 - Pistole s/n 9140e. Brass stud added to the (cover) flap, additional brass stud added to the cleaning rod pouch. the precincts held the long cleaning rods, similar to the navy P.04 pattern, onto which a brass travel stop was soldered, used in conjunction with the Mndungsschoner (muzzle protector), Verkehrsposten der Schutzpolizei, Berlin 1924. The lack of a holster maker on the rear, between the belt loops is not unusual considering its WW1 Imperial army origins, however, there is also no evidence of a maker mark under the cover flap. Based on the ratio proportion of the three rounds next to the muzzle protector, clearly indicates that the pictured muzzle protector is the smaller or shorter length spring-loaded variation 1 example and not the variation 2 longer length, not spring-loaded ERMA made muzzle protector. 19-130 text caption picturing a cut-back LP.08 holster: that the converted LP.08 artillery holsters were not reconverted by the decree of August 1928 and so retaining the LP.08 cleaning rod pocket (pouch), modified by addition of a wider top section and second stud to accommodate the long Police cleaning rod with soldered on travel stop. Since these cut back LP08 holsters, at least in the Weimar era, had no provision for a spare magazine, the police officer carries a twin magazine pouch on his belt. I 1924 titled Verkehrsposten der Schutzpolizei or Traffic posts of the security police. which clearly shows an early Weimar era police officer with a rare belt loop variation of a cut-back artillery holster with closed toe, full cover flap with an up-strap and brass stud closure. (Schutzpolizei Berlin) 12022 Xd. No tool pouch. Edward Tinker - Co-Author of Police Lugers & Simson Lugers - Veteran Bring Backs Vol 1-4. yes sir it the sear and magazine safety installed. Over all good condition. )" The only thing I can add is that the "R" in the marking indicates "Revierhauptmannschaft" which was apparently a militarized Police used in large cities as an adjunct to the regular police (Still) I bought it for $400. Leading edge contradicted, where earlier on page 1262 Fig written in pencil on the holster was dyed as. Convinced that this is an exceptional example of one such police officer private,! 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