I wanted a good carry gun that was light and reliable, so I decided that the .38 would fit and I just went with it. Good point Len. I'm asking the above questions because I don't want to run too hot of a load, but wasn't sure if it was ok to drop down below 2.8 as far as 2.5. Alliant listed 3.6 gr Bullseye as maximum (15000 psi) in 38 Special and 3.8 as max in 38 Special PLUS P (17000 psi) with 158 LSWC bullets. The 357 magnum about 45,000 psi and the std 38 special about 17,000 psi. Reloading .44 Spl. (Note H110 & W296 are the same as of 2008 as is HP-38 & W231), (IMR 4227 is same as H-4227 if made in Australia), * Blackhorn 209 is a black powder substitute with smokeless like qualities. 300 Blackout Fine-Tuning: Finding the Right Barrel Length for Your Rifle. That blunt-ended bullet cut a clean hole all the way through whatever its modest velocity allowed it to penetrate. I dont miss lubing casescarbide is king! Recoil in that gun is less than most 45 ACP 1911s I have shot, and its still got around 500-600ft lbs of energy which is more than enough for feral hogs around the ranch back home. Thanks to all for the info. When I teach other people the basics of reloading, I teach them on the .38 SPL. Even at hot .44 mag velocities my Super Redhawk has shiny bore with zero leading. I.E. I am aware of the plated bullet limitations on BE accuracy and am more interested in them for their "plinkability". https://www.bullseyeforum.net/t2221-distinguished-revolver-loads-that-don-t-suck. Therefore, the conventional wisdom is that they must be loaded to a lower velocity. I had ammo for some friends as low as 600 fps. Bonus is the CT #305 grips are both large enough to be actually useful, and can use the laser, or turn it off if you dont need the laser. I have 4 handguns that will shoot .38. Lord only knows how many cartridge cases I hammered with a plastic mallet into that Lee, it had to be thousands. Smith & Wesson Model 27 .357 Magnum (because no 6-inch Smith & Wesson .38 Special revolver was on hand). The Lyman is handy for sizing or priming while youre watching a movie. Has anyone loaded 38 special with these compoments? It also shows that the loads were established using a 6" barrel, so regardless of what any published data shows, the chances of ever finding published data for the exact projectile and barrel length you are using, as well as the exact conditions you will be shooting in, would be nearly impossible. While I do have a GP100 in .357 magnum, I dont like shooting .38 special ammo out of it, because cleaning powder residue out of the longer chambers is a real bitch. Through the heyday of bullseye shooting over the various match courses of fire, there was probably a Mount Rushmore-sized mountain of powder loaded and combusted 2.7 grains at a time. The quality of the loads equals a bargain. 5 are good choices. was a breeze. Thank you for the article. 6.) I was just trying to get a general consensus of what other guys were using. An early Les Baer .45 knotted a group of the lead SWCs into a tight 1.3-inch group, while an M&P .45 did 1.25 inches. The SP101 is far more comfortable to shoot but not so much fun to carry. Thats what the Cavalry Board asked for over a century ago, and thats what weve got. This represents a great start, and if thats all you do, youll still be far better off than the majority of the population. Dec 18, 2011. Would .44 Special be somewhat similar to .38, in terms of ease of reloading, case life, etc.? Posted March 2, 2013. The floor does not apply for PPC, or the equivalent match for Action Pistol. Different colors can be used to identify different loads and since bottom of each bullet is also powder coated, there is less lead dispersed in the air at the shooting range. We look at three classics: one each in .45 ACP, .38 Special, and 9mm. Since we are working with a gun that doesnt have a magazine, we can afford to mess with this dimension at will. If you can follow simple instructions, you can safely load this cartridge. Clays, Universal, HP38, HS6 and H4895 are products of Hodgdon Powders. Going up to 3.9 Gr for +P. This pistol uses the .38 Special with a Remington wadcutter bullet seated flush with the case mouth. Like both the .38 and the .44 spl. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. * Prefer to use the CT model 305 laser grips in lieu of S&W grips. 594/600 at the real distances of 24 rnds at 50 yds, 24 rnds at 25 yes, and 12 rnds at 7.5 yds. It is always higher when powder is next to primer. for 38 special If there is a search function for these forums (didn't see one) I'd be happy to use that too Go to the Alliant website and find the data for Unique and Bullseye. Because we have no action to cycle, the novice reloader can afford to be off a bit if they have an entry-level scale or powder dispenser. Pasted as rich text. If all you practice with is the easy comfortable stuff, its not really practice. i had the same issues you did when i was trying to load for my DR revolver 14-3. to light of power had a soft recoil but ungodly bad accuracy. Only if you see more than one load, is it less than maximum. Red Dot work fine for most 38 Special loads. Not as easy to find brass these days as it is not the most popular round anymore. WAP, WMR, WSF, WSL, 760, 748, 231 and 540 are products of Winchester, Components Div. I'm planning to use Alliant's Unique powder to reload with 125 grain flat point jacketed bullets from Berry's and Winchester small pistol primers. Enough that the range Officer at my range recognized them because the muzzle blast made a distinctive cat whisker pattern at 8 and 10, and 2 and 4 o clock. That isnt unique to Bullseye, but is certainly more pronounced with the relatively small charges required. I buy 158 SWCHP all the time.my main bullet. A significant difference in speeds is usually noted. looks like today. As I said I am not familiar with your frame and suspect it is one of the latest models out by Smith. Over 20,000 rounds, Ive found that theres rarely a wrong way to do .38 SPL. .38 Special +P (Alliant Reloaders Guide) Warning! You gotta try the S&W M342 Airlight TI. [ARCHIVED THREAD] - 5.0 gr unique with berry's 125gr = .38 Special squibs (solved ! Bullseye is primarily associated with .38 and .45after all, it says right on the bottle: Great for .38 Special and .45 Auto target loads. But it is equally at home in high-velocity auto loads. Be careful about published sources (and doubly so about internet sources), regarding maximum loads for the 38 special. In one or two strokes, the bullet is formed ready for dip lubing. Left to right:148 gr. At one time or another, I also owned and shot a M38 Bodyguard (nka the 638), a M37 Chiefs Special (now the 637), a M60 (which is a tad heavier but no more user-friendly), and a couple of others. During my first half century on this planet, my caliber of choice for defense was 45 ACP- but for everything else it was always 38 SPL. .38 Special (Using Hornady Bullets) reloading data with 353 loads. People who prepare usually tend to focus on the survival basics: security/self-defense, water, food, first aid, sanitation/hygiene, knowing when to get out and when to stay put. The Bullseye powder pushed five into two inches flat for another 1911 that is typically a four-inch gun. 2.9 of Clays is soft enough and dead accurate at 50yds. It is easy to load in progressive presses and has commercially available options from virtually all modern manufacturers. 110gr JHP! I havent shot too many full house Casull loads, but I get a huge grin when shooting my reduced loads of 7.5grs of Trail Boss under a Cast Performance 360gr WLFN. . Do you folks think a start at 3.0 gr and work up from there with a 125 gr bullet would be a safe load. SWC+GC, I can usually keep 1.5" groups with it at 25 yards if I do my part. Paste as plain text instead, If you have the means, I highly recommend you trying one out. Due to different barrel lengths, type of bullet, seating depth, primer type and other factors, you may not get near the FPS charted. Youd just be risking ALOT firing it in a .38 framed revolver. I first started reloading 40+ years ago at a Lee Loader in .38 Special for a brand new Smith & Wesson Model 66 I had just purchased. RN, 158 gr. 4.) I find the Pachmayr Compac grips on my 640 reduce the slap of full-boat .357 to less than that on my 3 M65 (w/ wood Altamont grips) or my 4 686 (Pachmayr Gripper Professional grips.) 25 Auto 32 H&R Magnum 32 Auto 32 S&W Long 357 Magnum 38 Special 38 Special +P 38 Super Auto +P 380 Auto 40 S&W 44 Rem. IT'S A COMBINATION TAPER AND ROLL CRIMP. In my area, Bullseye is one of the first powders to disappear from shelves, lasting about a heartbeat longer than an econo bulk box of .22 Long Rifle ammunition. (Or so I have heard.). Anyone know where I can download a chart where all the powders burning rates (regardless of manufacturer) is listed. These two can cover the entire performance spectrum up to .38+P. Normal 38 spell loads for as long as I can remember were never loaded less than 800FPS and I have loaded for revolvers and autos such as my S&W mod 52 that only shoots flush wadcutters. I'm guessing they still go bang, and leave the gun to go downrange. The cases are large enough that they can be easily manipulated by inexperienced hands and yet small enough to not require much force in the sizing stage. There have been guns Ive bought for the caliber, but the .38 wasnt one of those. Any discussion of Bullseye is incomplete without mentioning a few of the downsides. That sounds. I have used everything from simple lead to the most advanced machined copper bullets and found them all to be extraordinarily easy to load and shoot. Bullseye Handgun Powders Smokeless pistol powder Billions of rounds have been loaded with Bullseye since it was introduced in 1913. These loads are for my wife's revolver. Power Pistols works well in short auto cartridges and higher pressure cartridges but no so well with a 158 grain bullets in 38 Special. WST seems like such a good powder in .45 ACP that I thought I might try it. ), I very much wanted to start with some tried-and-true Bullseye loads, but it took an epic scavenger hunt across many months to find a canister of the elusive classic. Home About Partners Contact. These are put into a large hydraulic press and extruded into a continuous coil of wire. I have read some posts online from people who claim that it makes no difference whether the bullets are swaged or cast; and they can be loaded to the same velocity, but the swaged bullets will lead up a barrel faster because the lead is softer. The range (understandably) insisted you shoot their ammunition and the mildest they had was 158 grain LRN standard pressure. True enough that it doesnt make power factor for Custom Defensive Pistol in IDPA or major in USPSA competition. I have tested lots and lots of different bullet and found them all to be great. It would have been too hot. My Ruger LCR .357 Magnum is pleasant to shoot even with full pressure loads. are you loading .38 special brass, or .357 magnum brass? Traditionally, the max SAAMI pressures were: 38 S&W 14,500 The 9mm produces about 35,000 psi, The covered blackstrap and extended length Compac design I reckon are major factors in reducing perceived recoil. Clear editor. This Cast Reloading Bullet feeds great in automatics and has excellent accuracy in both the 9mm and 38 Super. Horrible 5-12" groups at 25 yds. The best part about this is that not only do you never really lose your fired cases, but you they are always in great condition. I never enjoyed touching off a 357 Mag in a K frame, and I cannot imagine the discomfort of firing it in anything smaller or lighter. For any loads over 900-1,000 FPS, I suggest using a jacketed bullet. I did 400 rounds in one afternoon on my Hornady progressive. Initially I shot them out of my Dads prized Smith & Wesson 686 and learned a great deal about double-action shooting and what a truly accurate handgun can do with a wadcutter. Just look for a lead remover tool with bronze screens. Posted March 19, 2015. This would be for plinking for my wife's ~3" Rossi, so something light and fun to shoot would be great. Speer shows 3.9 to 4.5 grains for a double end lead wadcutter but I'm thinking that may be a little strong for a plated bullet. 9 and others like 2400 that are generally used for magnums). I picked some up from my local Scheels yesterday. I use 3.2 gr Bullseye to push a 125 gr cast along at 750 - 775 fps in the 38 SPL from 5 and 6" barreled revolvers. But I would only be caught dead with one in my hands if I had to use one for self defense (pun intended). Thx so it seems like for the long line I need to get some sagged bullets. .38 Special Montana Gold 125 FMJ Power Pistol 6.1 COL 1.417 Tested with a S&W-686-3, 6", ambient temperature about 32 degrees, no wind, target posted at 25 feet (hey, I'm testing handloads for use, not my long range bear killing skills, defensive only). In several of the guns, the old standby couldnt quite duplicate the level of precision they exhibit with current production wadcutters from Black Hills or Winchester, but in each case, the load shot close to or right on the sights and nearly held the X ring. 9mm 125 grain RN Lead Hard Cast Bullet. A 158 SWCHP at 850-875 fps from a snub. The .38 ammo is more common to find than the .44 ammo, so that is a big reason to reload the .44. I bought a Ruger Alaskan in 454 Casull last year ahead of a hunt up in Wyoming. I bet you can find some nice shooting loads with Bullseye. Disclaimer, I own or owned all the super calibers out there except the casull, theyre all fun and quite useful in some scenarios, but dont discount the old timer. When you say "not working" can you be more specific? Youre describing Remington Multiball ammunition (R357MB)- I used to carry that stuff decades ago. [.38 Special] is a very versatile and useful round. In my time spent with the .38, I have come to greatly appreciate it for what it is and does. Note the dark band of lube on the 3 lead bullets. I dont bother polishing my .38 brass because I just dont let it fall in the mud or dirt. Currently using Titegroup, but started out with, and loaded many thousands of rounds, with Bullseye. head I use 3.2gr. Current J frame factory grips have similar features and are made of a stiffer compound. @ Grumpy- I tried LOTS of grips on S&W revolvers. You may end up with one "not" clearing the barrel. I get okay accuracy with 4.4 of W-W 231 and 125s, depending on what bullet is used. Unsurpassed for .45 ACP target loads. Load with 38 S&W data. The use of .38 +P+ level (25,000 27,500 psi) type reloads, in .357 brass. It is a very versatile and useful round. This load is in the general velocity bracket with most generic or bulk box 115-grain loads and zings over my chronograph at 1,125 to 1,140 fps from a Glock 17, depending on bullet style. Did you cross post the bullet weight? Maybe once a year I would reset everything to load up a few hundred .38 Spl for the wifes Detective Special, then right back to .357. Good shootin! ,I looked at Speer data, nothing there. 1.) 2.) Im still new to reloading, having done 2500 38 spl with bullseye. It has been many years since I used a Lee Loader and a wooden mallet to reload 8mm Mauser. If she had shot more, I would have probably bought another set of dies, to prevent the need for changing adjustments between the two. Midway has it in stock. 38 Special 17,000 In half a dozen different sixguns, it ranged from accurate to spectacular. Not in that order. A little shopping around might do better, as would casting the lead bullets. Your experience is definitely motivation for me to give my J-frame more range time! I have experimented with both of Hornadys 200-grain semiwadcutters in this load: the more button-nosed SWC and the longer Combat/Target (C/T) version. I'm new to reloading, starting off with a single stage Lee press reloading .38 special and .357 magnum with Lee's 4 die carbide set. Just an FYI. Replaced w/ Altamont laminated wood, and later w/ open- back Pachmayrs- the less-pronounced finger grooves fit me better. IIRC, the NRA Action Pistol power floor is a "factor" of 125, which requires a full 1,000 fps for 125-gr bullets. accuracy. Of course, these will be used in a revolver. 3 1/2" average not included flyers which seem to happen on every group test. September 2015 S.W.A.T. Any clues for powder and starting loads???? You can always back off to the .32 S&W Long or .32 H&R Mag if you choose to. I can get away with using it as cast w/ alox. Any pistol competitions yet? (See note on Powders below or read all about various Powders.). Similarly on drills with set times such as firing five shots in five seconds onto a bull at ten yards, the Bullseye load allows a little more time per shot to take advantage of a great 1911 trigger and lets the shooter nearly push shots into the same hole. Generally, I'm looking for a load that produces accuracy from approx. (bullseyeforum.net). In terms of the best stopping power for .38 Special, I personally like 150 grain full wadcutters or 158 grain hollowpoint semi-wadcutters. This is good, because the snub takes a lot of practice to have a consistent capability. Great gun with the best factory double action trigger Ive ever shot. (Same issue found with a 12 oz. BTW, I wish I had any one of those three revolvers today. Swaged bullets do not have the hardness of poured (cast) lead. ES 56 SD 24 PMC Eldorado Starfire +P 125 gr. When I finally got my hands on a pound of Bullseye, I naturally started with some of these loads. Winchester 231 is between Bullseye and Unique for the .38 special (see my personal load above). 38 Special, all bullet weights Bullet Powder Weight Powder Velocity OAL Primer Source 110gr JHP! : 1,266 1,472 Press. I was looking through the Lyman 49th edition reloading manual and see the bullets you are talking about. Here is the dillema: The Lyman manual says starting load is 3.2 grains and MAX. A chameleon depending on your loads and the barrel length or action its fired from. Accurate, powder-puff recoil, and serious power all in one. There seems to be a dearth of information using WST powder for the 38 Spl cartridge. I load a hard cast 125gn for my 38 special all the time. I don't know what bullets you have, but Berry's recommends per their website to use hard cast data for their plated bullets. IIRC, I used 4.5 gr of Bullseye under a 125 gr lead bullet for a light plinker, and 5.6 gr of Bullseye under a 148 gr wadcutter (~815 fps, 4" bbl, probably around 750 fps out of a snub). The beauty of shooting a .38 is that you can easily practice at the ranges youd fight at using basically any cheap bullet at minimal expense. I carry my M642 extensively, but I only shoot it occasionally because it is a snappy little b!tch with standard loads. Years back, for indoor matches I teamed the heavier S&W Model 28 with 3.4 grains of the same powder and bullet in . You are absolutely correct. I go with the cheap and easy shake and bake technique that requires only plastic Glad container with a lid, handful of black 6mm BBs and old toaster owen. They are true classics, and I hope you get as much use out of them! I use CCI Snake shot for two and Buffalo Bore short Barrel 130 gr. Hodgdon gives starting load of 4.0 grains and 4.4 grains MAX. Sorry I can't be of more help, but I use 158 grain coated RNFP and don't use any of those powders that you list. I think you will find since the .38 special is headspaced on the rim your case length is very important to achieve your best accuracy. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. Shot many thousands of my bullseye powder reloads with it. I have one that has been loaded about sixty times and it is still in use today. I will start ouy at the minimum velocity then. The big medicine was delivered by a 1911, but S&W K frames (favorites were Models 12 & 64) took care of everything else. I don't completely understand the physics behind it. Agree 100% since I reload and shoot it since years, lost count. Wow I learned something vital from this topic. I could knock out a pretty substantial chunk of my shooting needs with only these three loads. You can post now and register later. But still nothing under 3.5". I've been reading about this. The cowboy loads would be good choices as listed, since these ARE reduced loads for that sport, where usually just hitting a metal plate to make a sound is all that is required of the round. I have 100% confidence in my ability to shoot quickly, accurately, and comfortably with the 32, and I also have confidence that, if needed, my 32 H&R loads from Buffalo Bore and DoubleTap are quite capable of doing the job they are asked to do. Powder Bul Weight C.O.L. : 13,300 16,800 Starting Powder: 6.0 gr Starting Velocity: 1,266 Anyone that uses a J frame S&W should seriously think about swapping grips, and finding which set works for them. . With all the loads available, you can surely find one within recoil tolerance. Ready to load some Berry's148 gr plated DE wadcutters with Bullseye. ( customer reviews) $ 10.69 - $ 246.00. You need a .357 Magnum revolver if you want to try a 9MM cylinder. I have often thought about reloading .357 brass to .38 special velocities to get around that, but have just never decided to actually do it. Ive been reloading and shooting for over 40 years and love revolvers but 90% of the time my carry gun is a Sig 365 with a 12 round mag and a spare. 38 Special +P 18,500 There is one good reason to use WST. Classics go well together: circa 1909 S&W .38 Special and traditional 148-grain wadcutter load of 2.7 grains of Bullseye. Shot placement is just as important if not more. Hence the lack of load data from just about anybody. Yes I do have a few of the older high quality classic revolvers not the current made Cast Iron garbage that is being vomited out today. I was hoping I could use this combo to make use of available components. The swaged bullets are soft enough that they expand even at mild velocities where a JHP or hard cast cant. I do this for my .357s but this article is about .38 Special loads. I started loading .38s with a Lyman nut cracker and a home made measure for Bullseye over 65 years ago. I just bought a Lyman mold 160 round nose with a crimp groove. With the powders you listed I would try Bullseye, 231, and Unique in that order. With a charge of only 3.1 grains of Winchester 231 powder, velocities run around 750 to 800 fps with good accuracy and mild recoil. I like the smell of Bullseye, dont mind wiping the handguns down after a range day, and the dark soot that accumulates on my support hand when shooting wheelguns in particular just reminds me to wash up. I have loaded wadcutters for plinking , Double end 148 grain,, mixed brass over 2.7 gn WST or Bullseye. I load it almost exclusively though with either a powder coated or plated 125 grn bullet. Compac for my little finger to wrap around under the butt. Your link has been automatically embedded. Forget about it. Zero 158 grain swaged SWC, Starline brass, Winchester or Federal primer, 2.8 grains of Bullseye, roll crimp. IMHO .38 special is just fine for self defense, but just not enough to crack engine blocks. You can fit 7.1gr of powder under the 125gn JHP bullet? The 36s greater weight makes it much easier to shoot than the 638. I have not loaded plated bullets in quite some time, since they are not useful for my accuracy needs. Jack it up a notch and go with .327 Federal Magnum. Winchester's website has data for W231 and a 125 gr LRNFP, but not plated. Lucky me. I probably shoot more 38s than everything else put together but a Dillon 750 makes loading a lot faster. Damn. I favor the appearance of the C/T load and find it slightly easier to grab and orient in the loading process. However, after consulting my several different manuals, 3.5 seems to be a border line max load. I get 1000 fps with this load. I would say I completely disagree with you on ever even contemplating using a revolver for self defense unless you are a person that has never owned a gun and not likely ever to practice with it. Is it more bulky? Use the lead bullet loads with the plated and you will be fine. Honestly, plated bullets won't give you the level of accuracy needed for bullseye competition, even at 25 yards. References: Accurate Arms Co. 1996 Reloading booklet Alliant Powder Co. Reloaders Guide (1995) Hodgdons Basic Reloaders Manual (1996) Speer Reloading Manual, #12 Winchester Reloading Components Manual, 14th edition Lyman Piston & Revolver Reloading Handbook, 2nd edition. Only the Model 60 sometimes have factory installed grips that are not worthless. Good thing I didn't go with the original powder charge I intended to use. The only reason that my standard (everyday carry) self-defense handgun is not a .38 Special revolver is because I can conceal a semi-auto better (it isnt as fat as the cylinder on a revolver) and my semi-auto has 15 rounds of hard-hitting 180 grain bullets. I have some W231 that I use for my .38 super. 110gr JHP! You cannot paste images directly. I had enough, The Model 1911 pistol will officially turn 100 years old on May 5, 2011. All newly manufactured .38 Special revolvers must be proof tested to the same higher proof . The same volume of BE will weigh much more than than same volume of WST. Shoot cast and coated bullets and you can go much higher in load and velocity. Think that if a .44 spl. Hehe, back before Nick skimmed down. Ethan Johns is a military professional with worldwide experience in specialized units. So I expect recoil would be substantial and not very target-ish. What sort of wildlife are you thinking would be a good application for this self-defense load? Testing out some bullseye with 125 berry's bullets.. Brass collection is easy since it doesnt eject. Instead, Ive favored things like the K and L frame Smiths (5 screw pre-model 10 and 686 in my case) and Ruger revolvers for higher round count activities. I thought about trying 2.5 gr. My Reloading Manual for .38 Special has plenty of data for 125 gr JHP, and 125 gr JFP for Scot Powders/Vhitavuori, but nothing for Unique/W231/Bullseye. A Forum dedicated to the sport of Bullseye shooting, Bullseye-L Forum::Ammunition Discussion, I'm looking for an accurate load using 125gr bullets. Ive long since changed to a press, but that Lee Loader in its cardboard box is still in a storage box for obsolescent reloading gear. I dont mind it at all, though others do and look to similar performing powders that address these things. Data will be standard "book" .38 Special data and I'll not attempt to "hotrod" the loads. I once had to quote the South Carolina Supreme Court when they had spelled it loathe., Regards, 9.) I used to reload .38s and .357s with 158 grain LSWC bullets over 4.3 and 6.5 grains of Unique. Does anyone have any data. 2) Ammo that would work in the Air Force's Air Crewman Colt's and Smith and Wesson revolvers that had weak alloy cylinders. When I say that theres rarely a wrong way to do it, I really mean it. I have two editions of it from different years that have that data. BrianEnos.com Me too! Love my 642 for concealed carry, but have an SP101 (also a snubby) in .38 special (only) for use on the range. That's usually +P power level in .38 Special. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Required fields are marked *. For those who have issues using auto pistils, due ti arthritis or other medical issues with the hands an LCR or 642 is a great choice. When I finally took the plunge and started handloading (FIRST SHOTS WITH HANDLOADING: How Hard Can It Be? The Speer #8 lists a max of 7.5 grs Unique with a 125 gr Jacketed SP This would be for plinking for my wife's ~3" Rossi, so something light and fun to shoot would be great.All three of those powders have published load data for that weight bullet in .38 Special.All three of those powders have published load data for that weight bullet in .38 . You are spot on about Trail Boss, that stuff is magical with cast reloads. The key to those rounds, in spite of their paltry muzzle velocity of something like 825 feet per second out of a snubbie, is their diameter and mass: they will make significant diameter holes and penetrate respectably in attackers. Hornady No more lead in the barrel or on my hands. Some people then claimed SAAMI raised the 357 Mag to 45,000. I went from 2.7to 4.0 gr and nothing to speak of. 358430 (195 grain) round nose bullet that was used in the old 200 grain police loads as there is always interest in these. Three in particular proved as good as their longstanding reputations would indicate. Which left me with the last two. What I learned after 50 years of shooting and reloading 38spl cases some where around 100 thousands rounds. (Patrick Sweeney photo) September 15, 2021 By Michelle Hamilton, Field Editor. The least is usually supplied as a large cylindrical billet weighing several hundred pounds. Soft shooting. Enter to win an FN FAL Rifle. 38 Special Loads for Bullseye by GerhardG Sun Jul 17, 2022 11:01 am Greetings, Looking for load suggestions for 38 special LSWC 158 grain SNS bullets, red coated based on the following powders; Bullseye, Unique, N310 and N320.

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