This one really annoys me. Is the tang (nakago) signed? I have NO idea what that belt hanger is supposed to be. Slowly improving. I am not sure why the serial numbers are covered? Even should they be able to reproduce the sword exactly, it is not just that one should be looking at, but a series of common features in patina that are universal to genuine, old NCO. Sure, there's lots of other details like proof marks to look for, but these 5 things are just glaringly obvious and easy to see in pictures, and one or more seems to be on every single repro sword out there, so they're quick and easy ways to ID fakes. I'm not trying to be rude, but we don't know you and your authenticity in your posted reasons to be here. T95 NCO swords had copper hilts, or later, aluminum ones, never brass. Identification The serial number on the throat of the scabbard, 65830 matches that of the blade. Something changed in the last 6 months. I very much doubt that it would matter, but even someone with a repro would be able to use that information to create a fake. Wayne i would have called bad on it, think F&G early book had balls that big, remember two diff stacked ball stamp, or not, memory, lol, i jest. These take that shape of various dragon figures, Japanese peasants, fish etc. antique or of recent vintage. Replica swords and many Pasted as rich text. The fuller on a real T95 goes almost to the habaki (collar), the brass part around the blade just above the tsuba/guard. No habaki. Because it's really quite a nice repro, thought I'd better share it here as for reference. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off the Japanese soldier, not an end of war mass surrender item (swords and scabbards were frequently . DO NOT UNWRAP THE HANDLE! All NCO swords were numbered. $159.50. Yeah I guess Japanese military swords don't get much attention from the well known names. There are numerous There are over 8 obvious indications the sword is a repro dressed as a fake. WAY too big, wrong place and the square imprint around it. Army NCO's Sword, matching serial numbers. Short fuller. 20062021 Nihonto Message Board In very good condition, an early WW2 1935M (Type 95) Japanese Carlos,I remember your sword ( if it's the same one you first put on the site ) and it's 100%If you look at the sword by Shamsy in post no9 look at the seppa and how poorly it fits and how new it looks ! Maybe he is just one of the many merchants capitalising on a class of people with more money than they know what to do with. General McCarthur did not want the general population to be able to arm again. View cart for details. a "real" sword and certainly not an antique. Learn how your comment data is processed. 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As the tang rusts and ages, these become progressively smoother and less distinct. The Phillips screw was only patented in 1932, and hadn't caught on in most of the world by WWII. Second the Font isn't even close. Rarely is a high quality blade found in sword cane mounts; however, some of Sometimes they get irate. Anyway, if ok, can I post some pictures to get your expert opinion on my purchase? The grip wrapping and menuki are cast-formed. Most swords do not have matching . Where should I look for records or production date/serial number guides? No habaki. The blades in these items are all "soft steel" and have etched temperlines Authorized for production in 1935, the Type 95, commonly referred to as the NCO sword was all-machine made unlike the more expensive and higher-quality Officers sword. They just copy the real swords they import.Just comment what you like, you are not changing anything. The matching serial numbers indicate the sword was taken off Look at the bohi at the kissaki and the arsenal marks are terrible! June 23, 2016 in Military Swords of Japan. Sword Shows, Events, Community News and Legislation Issues, Military Swords of Imperial Japan - Ohmura San, Nihonto-Japanese Swords as Art - John Eliyas, The Token Society of GB - Scotland Branch, Nanka Token Kai - Southern California Japanese Sword Society, Japanese Sword Society of the United States, The Society for the Promotion of Japanese Sword Culture (NBSK), The Japanese Sword Society of the United States, Nederlandse Tken Vereniging - Netherlands, San Francisco Nipponto Society *caution. But a small percentage made its way back to the United States and into the collector market. Real swords only had flat-head screws. WW II By . Paste as plain text instead, They are getting better with the Kokura cannonballs, but this one - the lines are to thin, the balls too big. The above items are only a general guide. painted wood figures. But as I have been at this for a while, I'm seeing how much better the reproductions are getting, and I realize that every bit of help they can get by reading posts like this, helps them make their fakes even better. Etchings. They are referred to as "hocho tetsu" (kitchen steel) - a most derogatory term in sword circles. Copyright 1995-2023 eBay Inc. All Rights Reserved. WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword, sold In good condition and with matching sword vs scabbard serial numbers, this is a 100% guaranteed authentic WW2 Imperial Japanese Type 95 pattern Army NCO's sword / katana. Brass hilt. Does the blade show a true temper line (hamon)? The biggest giveaway are the stamps. in WW II military mounts. http://ohmura-study.net/790.html. Be the first to know of our latest discoveries and exclusive offers. WW II era swords have been put into shirasaya or Given the large jump in value that NCO swords have experienced in the last few years and given how relatively easy it is to copy something that is cast and milled without a lot of hand work involved, I think it is only a matter of time, and not much time at that, before the fakes are indistinguishable from the real thing. / full sized images available upon request. Japanese swords will have a visible grain in the steel of the blade. If there is a tang stamp (see the military sword page for examples) on the nakago, up close to the blade collar (habaki), it is a WW II era sword - these are arsenal stamps. Grain (hada) is sometimes difficult for beginners to recognize. good condition, a few small patina streaks, nothing much, and firm Japanese WWII swords are amongst the most copied/faked of all swords and prospective buyers should beware. The hilt paint is only about 30%, but still shows much of the yellow accent paint. I was so stupid to have some and sold it - for better swords. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. There are some Chinese replicas of these out there, however this sword is definitely genuine. The 26 3/8 inch nagasa (cutting edge section) blade is in very IMA works diligently to be aware of these ever changing laws and obeys them accordingly. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. IMA considers all antique guns offered on our website as non-firing, inoperable and/or inert. The copper ferrule has three stamps . I ask you to help in determining the authenticity of the sword. Here are the expected photos of the serial numbers. lonely panet. "Ninja swords" are a Hollywood fiction. or old wood sticks. Used In good condition! Serial number 116501 with matching saya. Be sure to read Reproductions and Fakes. Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. Japanese WWII Type 95 NCO Sword. Thanks sean, Your email address will not be published. This law exempts antique firearms from any form of gun control or special engineering. Guaranteed authentic: A WW2 Type 95 Japanese army NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. About eBay; Japanese WWll Army officer`s sword in mountings, Mantetsu made "Shigefusa", 1939, " MOTOHARA BLADES SGT-" JAPANESE SWORD/TAMESHIGIRI/KATANA/IAIDO, 40" White Dragon SAMURAI NINJA Bushido KATANA Japanese Sword Carbon Steel Blade, 1095 Clay Tempered Hand Forged Folded Damascus Carbon Steel Full Tang, Katana Sword Clay Tempered T10 Steel Choji Hamon Brass Tsuba Japanese Samurai, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. The best place to look is at the serial Numbers. In Germany the only plattform for weapons is egun. Overall the fit and finish is definitely far above a replica, which can be seen in the photos. - it will reduce its value by at least 50 percent!! Any so called "ninja sword" is pure fantasy. Here is another example that's not too bad, but the bohi, stamps (these are most obvious parts) and other details are off. Steel is magnetic - aluminum is not. Imperial Japanese Army (IJA) Type 95 NCO Shin Gunto. And even if your intentions are completely legitimate, the "bad guys" are still out there and could read this post. This would fool most entry level guys. For definitions of terms, check the visual glossary page. The fuchi collar at the base of the grip bears three stamped marks, these being the marks of the Iijima Copany, the group that manufactured the blade within the Tokyo Arsenal; the inspection stamp of the Imperial Army unit within the Tokyo arsenal that inspected the sword; and the Tokyo Arsenal identification stamp. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. WWII JAPANESE TYPE 98 ARMY SHIN-GUNTO SWORD!!! However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. Is there visible grain (hada) in the steel of the blade? Yes, those are strangely too perfect and not a recognized font. However, it is ultimately the responsibility of the buyer to be in compliance of laws that govern their specific location. Many modern replicas and iaito have aluminum blades. Even non-mechanical artsy-fartsy stuff. It's hard to really pin down, just doesn't sit right with the eye. Fakes never get it right. How the sword is mounted has nothing to do with its age or authenticity. Even the once "lowly" type 95 NCO sword has started to command high prices. NCO copper tsuka (handle) that is actually painted on top of the handle, I have not seen that before. no interest to Japanese sword collectors. However, just because the blade is steel does not mean it is a genuine Japanese sword as many modern replicas are made with steel blades. The collctors in China can spot the fake easily as well,and they pay more than us to get the real ones. Something went wrong. I din't know why the NCO swords are asked so strong. It's a reissued one like one in Fuller & Gregory's book. The process of tsuka-maki (handle wrapping) is quite complicated. Your email address will not be published. Mauser 99 in post 15 look to the scabbard throat and you should see the brass sleeve visible.Also with the MountCastle example the paint still looked fresh in the overly large fake serial number on the throat..Shame really because the one that is on the site with a painted hilt but marked sold is a real one,and nice too ! Contact one of them for assistance. This service used example is a genuine WWII Japanese Type 95 NCO Samurai Sword or katana, with aluminum handle construction and machine made fullered blade. Blade is 26.25 inches long, with an overall length of 36.25 inches. So all of these swords are offered on egun.de, schwertshop.de and other german sellers. You cannot paste images directly. For questions or accessibility help - please call (908) 903-1200. Further That is an important part of identifying the authenticity of an NCO. There are collectors in China, and if they need more, they can buy them. Typically it is for food and baby goods and it is actually a livelihood. I think it's always worth spending the extra time to study these "high end fakes/copies" because they are getting better. This product is available for international shipping. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. Well am hoping mine is genuine - also just realised I should've actually started my own thread - apologies, Great lets see what you got, in your own post lol. I don't want to help them any more than necessary. There are some very knowledgeable and experienced folk here and you can trust their deduction. It comes with the original bag it came home from the war in. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Here is my last IJA type 95 copper handle nco sword the I own. Etchings. Whether a blade is So many repros use Phillips or combination screws, especially on the saya. The position of the number on the blade, configured to be read with the cutting edge down, identifies the sword as having been produced by the Tokyo Arsenal (The only other source for the Type 95 sword was the Nagoya arsenal, which impressed the number on the blade in such a. The end of WWII marked the beginning of the sword ownership ban in Japan. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Most swords do not have matching numbers because somewhere along the life of the sword the scabbard was changed. The overall length is approximately 38 inches in the scabbard. Steves last post real or copy? Tokyo First Arsenal blade numbers. I can't get over the prices on these nowadays.. crazy, https://www.ebay.com/itm/WW2-WWII-Japanese-NCO-OFFICERS-SWORD-WITH-MATCHING-NUMBERS/253234351978?hash=item3af5f18f6a:g:wxsAAOSwAHtZ94Dm. There should be no characters etched on the blade, just a serial number. well it would have fooled me, how about you other gunto guys? Akunin Never use force to remove the handle.) I figured it might be useful to others. Obvious two issues are the scabbard pattern and additional screw. The scabbards and hilts are usually designed to resemble bamboo or old wood sticks. Seppa intergrated in the fuchi is a no go here. (NOTE: Some swords may have two mekugi - one near the guard and the other near the end of the hilt. This is pure fiction. After that I heard nothing. Cut-out version brass tsuba. Some older (Shinshinto) As we have a grater passion for and preservation in mind rather then profits as a dealer does. Katana | HEAVY Cutter For HEAVY Targets. Most soldiers and citizens surrendered their swords to the American occupying forces. Man just crazy all the fakes and how great this sight is about telling how to spot them .many thanks for posting to help us out. On newer swords the file marks on the tang will be sharp and crisp. The serial number looks very short by the size of the painted over area - maybe too short. Please consider starting a new thread rather than reviving this one, unless your post is really relevant and adds to the topic.. NCO's sword, Kokura arsenal stamp. This thread is quite old. To a novice who buys on impulse..then asks in the forums.you'll get BURNT. The NMB says so!" Display as a link instead, Consult someone who is trained in tsuka-maki if you need to have a handle re-built. You cannot re-wrap the hilt with the silk cord that was removed. There's a technical term for it in Australia. Overall a very nice condition WW2 Type 95 NCO Katana that will appreciate in value over the coming years. Cheers to Dan for bringing it to my attention. Hi there what would you expect to pay for a aluminium handled no 3 sword with some blade staining/surface rust and a dentless scabbard with some surface rust? The real tsukas have crisp detail, and the fakes always seem not-crisp. Everything for sale on ima-usa.com is completely legal to own, trade, transport and sell within the United States of America. Arsenal stamps do not appear on pre-1930's blades. The end of WWII marked the beginning of the sword ownership ban in Japan. Neil. Newer swords will have a grey, metallic tang perhaps with a little red rust. I agree, once they start nailing the kissaki and proper proportions it will be a minefield out there. I thought it would be a good idea to post a few old pictures of mine where I highlighted the considerable differences between Type 95 swords. There are strategies in place with most countries Customs and Border protection to seize and destroy fake watches, handbags, CD's DVD's etc, but swords are not even on the RADAR. The scabbard is painted the correct green color, and the spacing from the top to the hanging ring is the correct 3 inches. Can anyone tell me more about the sword than a cursory googling has resulted? . Sword steel of the army standard , Blade length: 83.6, Curvature: 1.35, machine made, tempering in oils, with a fuller and no Hamon, Overall length: 100.2, Made in the Tky Artillery Arsenal Type 32 Gunt is a government supply noncommissioned officer sword enacted in 1889 (August 23, Meiji 32).

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