From $15 to the cheapest electric coil and fan garage heater (which I wound NOT recommend as it actually burns oxygen in the air), to $250 fancy infrared "wood stove-looking" (electric, of course) heater. I use the original carton for storing my heater in the off months. Reverse-cycle air conditioning is 300-600% efficient, which means that it can take one unit of electrical energy and turn it into 3 to 6 times as much heating or cooling energy. Also, dont buy Cub Cadet. What I do not understand is if the heater is so great why are not the customer service personal returning calls. If 1500W goes in, 5118 BTU comes out. Make sure that your home is well insulated and consider using a radiant barrier. Because heating a wire is less efficient to heating a infared light you can't do a comparison. In response to my last post, I can afford a 300.00 loss due to this scam, but what about the next person. I realized that this was the start of giving me the run around. I bought Edenpure heater in December 2010 and my january heating bill doubled, and what they sent to me is not what I ordered from them. She points out their parents had electrc heat in a double-wide. However after studying A LOT of them including Duraflame, and all the current ones on the market, I found Dr. Infrared to be the best comparable for a fraction of the cost of EdenPure, as well as the most highly recommended. Anyway, they said they would do a refund and to give it a couple of weeks to credit my account.Well about 3 days ago I had another one of these pieces of junk delivered to my house so I called them, again. So people, please pay attention to this post and others like it and don't fall victim to this Biotech/Eden pure scam. The heating element inside every electric heater is . I will never buy another one and will tell others not to, they are well overrated. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on December 18, 2010: Joe T, I wrote this article after testing the EdenPURE heater. The blower came on but no heat. Received two as a gift, have to run them both simultaneously to only get very modest heat. I have been in this house for 10 years, so in 10 years, I have spent just in those 3 months alone $15,000. Here's examples of how those would work: 1) Say your furnace has a vent that blows all of the warm air straight outside every time the furnace kicks on giving no warmth to the house. They are perfect for sleeping. We have really high ceilings. Do not take my word for it call yourself 1-800-294-0280 and see if you can get through. They have two 1000 watt and 1500 watt settings and will heat 200 sq feet, but from what I read, the 1500 watt setting is using more electricity. It has exactly the same power of 1000 to 2000 Watts as everything else including EdenPure. I often think these celebrities who endorse products do not really check completely into them. Let me easily explain. Debra Breckenridge on September 20, 2011: I bought an Eden hearter last Dec. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). I was just about to order an edenpure heater. I am on a fixed income and can't afford to pay almost the same amount I paid for it to ship it back. Cost between 30% and 60% less per hour of operation than wood-burning fireplaces Emit 40 times fewer emissions than wood-burning units and cost less to operate They can be turned off easily with a switch, eliminating concern about remaining embers Propane gas-burning cooktops and ovens. The pilgrim done swallowed the hook too. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. Oh, yes, and for the guy who said how can the ceramic remove moisture from the air, if you will look, there is only one model that is also a dehumidifyer, so it is both a heater PLUS a dehumidifyer. Was given to me as a gift and I'm looking to buy a second unit for my second floor. If your electric company charges you 10 cents per kilowatt hour and you run a 1,500-watt space heater for 10 hours, that will cost $1.50. I could not see any savings at all. State notices to consumers [affirm.com/licenses]. I have not used it consistently 24 hours a day. Burgers were wonderfully juicy, with the buns toasted on the flat top before assembly, so we got the full old fashioned greasy, buttery effect. No more, no less. If you are going to call names and state things are scams, what do you think about these celebrities, who we would normally feel are honest, endorsing the senior life insurances they state is ONLY 9.00 per UNIT. The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers to this website may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. In repairing my ductwor, I found one unattached duct that was heating my attic! Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 02, 2011: Bob, my main concern is saving ME money. Again, the EdenPure AND ANY HEATER using 1500 watts is going to cost too much to use as your only heat. Every one I talked to loves there eden pure I going to get one this weekend worth it. He is retired as a Lieutenant Colonel from the Texas Army National Guard . The big SCAM not mentioned is the advertised life of the Edenpure US-1000 or Gen4 heaters. I bought one several years ago and saved like at least 100. on my first electric bill. The customer service for these things is terrible, they leave you waiting on line for long periods listen to a recording telling you over and over you will wait less than a minute. My electric bill sky rocketed, can't think of anything positive where Edenpure heaters are concerned. A 1500-watt heater will produce at most 5000 BTUs. I am filing complaints against EdenPure ad commercials where I can, and working to get my mother's money back! Yes other heaters have safety cut off switches but there not much good if your sofa has set on fire because the fire was too close. The E.P. Room Air Conditioner. (FYI: the same goes for room air conditioners.). [7] Burkett said he burned the originals after faxing copies of the documents to CBS. Connect with Us PH: (269) 428-2723 PH: (877) 494-9357 Contact Us Heating the ceramic creates a more even heat. I tune mine up every year with the drop of oil and a little compressed air. Yes if i needed a safe heater and had the right place for them. There are none so blind as those who will not see. To enhance the gameday experience in the Jim Kelly, Van Miller and Paul Maguire Clubs, a radiant heating system was installed and ready for use during the chilly games of the 2013 season. PUT A THRMOSTAT IN EACH LARGE ROOM IN YOUR HOUSE THEN INSTALL A SWITCHER TO CONTROL EACH THERMOSTAT IT CUT MY BILL IN HALF. :). I have natural gas heat and now I like it even more. The point that needs to be understood is that any type of room heater that you utilize to perform "zone heating" will save you money. What else can I do? Placed an order for the Eden Pure Gen 4 after watching an TV commercial. I have a 1400 watt heat gun and my wife has a 1800 watt hairdryer. Nothing is 100% efficient. I am sold on the Eden Pure, but I will have to say I did see one just before seeing this page that is described much in the same way as the Eden Pure Gen4 but is marked down to $219. is way overpriced for what it does. Even your oil or gas-fired furnace does not reduce oxygen because the combustion gasses that go up the chimney are replaced by air infiltration. I WAS FREEZING. However, your actual price will depend largely on the size and type of heater you choose. It's clear that you have not only taken the bait, but swallowed the hook. This year Feb 2011 they now want $94.80 for the same pack of bulbs. I was directed to 3 different 800 customer service numbers. You cannot get more energy out of an electron than is in it. Don't buy this slick ripoff. HOWEVERand this is where I have to now state after research of many heaters, this Gen4 costs .25 an hour to heat. Choosing a selection results in a full page refresh. I cannot comment about the energy saving from the Edenpure Gen 4 as it quit working about 2+ months after it was purchased on EBay from Bass Pro Outlets. Buyer beware. The copper is pretreated to soften the copper . I did consider the possibility of buying one, but after reading your hub i re-read the brochure and realized that this was also extremely misleading without actually lying. I do not believe Bob Villa has used one for the main heating in his home, but I do believe he has likely used it for zone heating. Contact Burkett's Heating & The heater has been an awsome pool heater and we have had great luck with it over the years. This listing includes patent applications that are pending as well as patents that have already been granted by the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO). "CBS Guard Documents Traced to Tex. If a portable electric heater serves your needs, a low-cost model will kick out the same heat as an expensive model. The EP does not outperform the Lasko. I don't care if my electric bill doubles as long as I can put off ordering and paying this Government Created Shortage of Propane at astronomical prices. to produce those BTUs. The family film tells the story of Bobby Burkett (Huffman), the quarterback for Louisville St. Thomas Aquinas, a small catholic high school. I live in the South, and that is high for me (keep in mind I have not experienced this because I have not used it 24 hours a day). He's doing this because he thinks its a good product and it is if used in the right situation. How can 1500 watts out perform 1500 watts? I would not with a $20-$40 heater from one of the big box stores. You have to have a control then you have to know all of the temperatures outside, the amount of insulation, the temps in the house, the furnace size and type (gas , electric, propane) how 'tight' the house is and several other factors. Plus, as someone else said, there are varied types of heat. We bought an Eden Pure Gen 1000 a month and a half ago and lo and behold our electric company called today because they noticed a huge spike in our usage, as a matter of fact our usage has more than doubled. He admitted to lying to CBS about the origin of the memos when he said he got them from fellow guardsman George Conn,[6] then claiming that he received the Killian documents from a woman calling herself "Lucy Ramirez" who has never been identified. It doesn't mater what's inside the box. I don't know where one of these people learned their math, but a 300 sq ft room is not a 6 x 7. For under $100, you can buy a better-looking, better-built heater that will serve your needs for years to come. Call your agent or insurance company if you have any questions. You just lay it loose on top so nothing touches it. This may be because their previous forced-air system ductwork had or developed leaks, or something was wrong with air-flow on their system (clogged filters !!) Bill Burr announced spring and summer North American dates for his Live Nation produced 2022 arena and amphitheater tour, Bill Burr (Slight Return), visiting 23 cities from April through August including Rocket Mortgage FieldHouse on April 23, 2022. CLAIM: With the EdenPure the temperature will not vary in any part of the room. How can heated ceramic plates absorb water? I'm going to have to take back part of the comment about space heaters. I called the order number 1-800-458-5614 and got someone and had to request a supervisor and it took a while but they got me one on the phone. The reason why you can save on your utility bill is because you only heat a limited area of your home instead of heating areas not in use. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. The EdenPURE heater is several times as expensive as other infrared electric heaters. Talk about a rip off. Baseboard heating provides far more uniform heat distribution. do EVERYTHING that these $400 dollar SNAKE OIL heaters do!! I don't know where the originator here got the cubic feet, but that is not from the EdenPure advertisiing. I love it. First of all, because it is silent. They make for a much more comfortable room than ceiling fans. A btu is a btu is a btu. If not there could be an additional charge etc,. FUVM. Most heat guns even have a little twist flap on the back which does this to the heat gun so you can adjust the heat output it has nothing but coving up the airflow to adjust temp. when you look at the other sales websites they state in stock but edenpures states out of stock so they have to make it to sell it. The laws of physics, which can't be changed, say they'll both do the same thing. I have a ceramic cube heater I bought 25 years ago for $19.95 that will. Some Of there customers are saving and are willing to talk about it. Though I dont know why you would want to. Thank you for the validation. Im just another sucker. The USA has turned into a scam hotbed. Thanks for the good info that saved me. You suffer from the "curse of knowledge" (having a bias based on what other people have taught you) . 2) a btu, Also, for anyone who's interested, the fans in the small forced air heaters typically fail after about two years. Needless to say, i WILL NOT be buying any expensive heating units with misleading claims of their efficiency and lower monthly savings. In addition to that, the new windows, more insulation, more efficient unit(s) will reduce your electricity. It costs me about $2.00 per day to heat my house with Eden Pure. When the sunlight is in the right direction, I can see the dust particles floating by the intake. I've had my EdenPure for over 10 years and it's still going strong. I purchaser 2 EP 2 years ago and they work fine in my 1900sq foot home.I bought them to stop those money grubbing gas companys.I read all you're complaints,and no one had the common sense to understand some people may just want to get the oil money suckers out of their lives. I bought BOTH the heater and the air filter. Why do you think they would do that? I'm currently waiting for my new EdenPURE 360, do you have an opinion about this one? The above people are correct, you can only get so much heat out of a given amount of electricity. [17] If you want to prove it to yourself then put a thermometer in two of the same size rooms that start out at the same temp and are the same size turn then both on the highest setting at the same time and watch the temp increase I can promise the hair dryer will win. Electric heating is a process in which electrical energy is converted directly to heat energy at around 100% efficiency, [contradictory] using rather cheap devices. Patents by Inventor Bill Burkett. Any typical portable electric space heater of 1000-2000 W will produce exactly the same amount of heat as EdenPure. Bradford White Water Heater Thermostat settings | Save MONEY on Your Electric Bill! They definitely do state 1000 SQ.FT., not cubic feet.I really don't need you to explain to me the difference in cubic feet and square feet. if you live in california, with the EDEN pURE ,PGAETOLD ME THAT IT CAN COST YOU AS HIGH AS 50 CENTS AN HOUR TO RUN IT.my bill is usually 200 in the wintertime,for one month my electricity bill shot up to$360 and i had a saving of $28,gas. Many have been running now for well over 5 years and run almost constantly all winter long. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on January 20, 2012: Ritamarie, thank you for the lengthy comment. Had I chosen to update and insulate when I first moved here, I could have done it for that price or less. I've purchased similar heaters at Home Depot, in recent years, for about &10.00. ritamarie , you're wrong on so many levels. All they will pay is the premiums paid in. They promote using zone heating to save money. Someone should be going after SCI for false advertising at a minimum. They were not meant to be used in that manner. After reading all the comments, there is no way that I will save any money with this EdenPure Heater and will not order this. The heat output from an electric heater goes directly into the room, without being lost to the leaky ductwork, that may be part of the reason that people observe that the electric heaters (edenPure or otherwise) appear to "solve their heating problems" !! My complaints is that I place my order 4 weeks ago still no shipment (endnpure.com states 5 to 10 dyas) & cust service does not respond to email and closed half the time. If they did, they would have to absorb water, wouldn't they. How long do the bulbs last, how much do they cost, and does a technician have to do the work? Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on October 31, 2011: John, it should remind you of every politician. I use two in my basement that have been working constant for three years (except for the summer months) and still work fine. I was about to order an eden pure online when I saw this site and decided to read consumer comments first. *Rates from 0% APR or 10-30% APR. has anyone else had this problem and if so can you advise me? When I pulled the heater out this winter nothing happened. Would i buy this. Answer: Virtually all electric space heaters at Amazon do the same heating job. According to these naysaying braniacs her hairdryer should put out more heat since they claim all heat sources are 100% efficient, etc. Bobby Burkett ( Logan Huffman) is a promising quarterback for a struggling high-school football team. I did buy a small Pelonis ceramic heater 20 years ago for $100, and it still works. Kromstraat 25 1.2, 2520 Ranst, Belgium. Consider Choosing a Different Electric Heater. This is an electrical climate-control system which provides heat as well as refrigerated cooling. Mr.Vila and Eden Pure do you really think it is fair game on humanity to peddle your wares on them? i.e. There just selling an alternative that has good and bad points like everything else on the market. Certainly the bedrooms are cooler, but remember it is a zone heater not meant to warm the entire area of 1250 sq ft, although the bedrooms are not cold. Al Metcalf if you want to call them stupid go right ahead anyone with half a brain can debunk your hair dryer vs heat gun theory. Thank you guys for the info, I was just about to order an Eden Pure, uffff going to walmart to buy a Lasko or anything else like it. This means it produces 5118 BTU of heat. Unh uh !! CLAIM: [Other heaters with] cheap ceramic plates reduce humidity. at a fraction of the cost,with the same heat output a far fewer failure rates. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. So, that means 50,000 in insurance is going to cost that senior 500. a month. Yes, it is not as fast as any heater with a blower, however having that even heat is much more comfortable and healthy. Bob Vila was dropped by Sears for problems with post job problems and costs associated. they will endorse anything for a price . I own a 500 and a 1000,I have breathing problems,used kerosene heaters and about died,plus it cost me $90 or more to warm and leave my house and clothes reeking of kerosene oil!I used the 500 watt in fairly cold weather. Suarez Corporation Industries / Pinnacle Systems have absolutely NO component life test data to back-up their component life claims. are surprised when they experience comfortable, cost-efficiently operating systems in other manufactured homes. We tried their medium wings and a couple of the burgers. So reliability can be good or bad. I sent it back to get another heater, and GUESS WHAT IT DOESN'T WORK EITHER. In fact, I had to get up and turn down the heat later as I was sweating. Asked store manager about the eden pure heater and when we looked online, the same 1500 watt unit is rated at the same 5000+ btu's. They work by drawing electricity over the course of a few hours at night, and storing it as heat in a 'bank' of clay or ceramic bricks to use the following day. What a bunch of scam artists. of insurance. Bill Burkette, who was the original lead singer of American vocal group The Vogues, died Thursday at the age of 75.The group was formed in 1958 at the old Turtle Creek High School, calling . Sorry about the math confusion, but I really did mean cubic feet, not square feet. I used to like him on this old house , but like many of the over the hill broke celebs. Bill Burkett was the CBS source in the Killian documents affair of 2004. You also only heat one room so it costs over $2 per room at an 8 hour run. Whether you like the article or not - the simple fact is any cost savings you are seeing by using an Eden Pure heater is due to the use of "zone heating" I.e. This actually makes their heater less efficient. For the guy who said to close off the rooms and the vents in those rooms, don't you know that can damage your central unit. The machine shot out sparks. You get what you pay for, and many manufactured homes do not put the quality into their heating systems, ductowrk, etc. For your reference, I use Lasko heaters in my home and office. the first home I woned was a manufactured home, and I first used zone-heating to beat the cost of heating the outdoors through the leaky ducts (until I repaired them, of course !) Heating water accounts for approximately 15 percent of a home's energy use. Dose the Edenpure save you money? And, BTW, author of this site, it is SQUARE FEET, not CUBIC as you stated. Answer: A radiant barrier is a thin reflective fabric. They collect heat from the air, water, or ground outside your home and concentrate it for use inside. If you buy one of the cheapies to make do, your dollars are going out the window. The EdenPURE portable electric heater is a scam by my count. dont buy one these heaters mine was wsed for fore mounths and now it quit wrote them they said the tubes are 36.00 plus 6.95 shipping. Build a mounting box out of 2 x 4 lumber and 3/4-inch plywood that will allow you to mount the new tankless water heater about four inches out from the wall. It is a well-marketed $40 electric heater selling for $400 or more. You are not saving money because the Eden Pure heater is an amazingly efficient heat source, it is because you are not heating the whole house to as high of a temperature. Thanks to all of your warnings I will now seek out a nice space heater for around $50 or so and continue to heat my home the same way I have been, just keeping the space heater handy for when I want a little extra heat on colder days. Always open. Have i used them. Manufacturers of electric space heaters want you to believe that using one of their devices will lower your heating bill. Anybody can sell anything and make great claims and never have to prove them.I am a electrican and 1500 watts is 1500 watts no matter what shape or size. There is no free lunch; you can't get more energy than the source contains. where is the savings plus spending $900.00 on the units. FACT: Nonsense. The EdenPURE performer the same as my $50 Lasko electric heater. I am so glad I stumbled on this site first. Actually, when the Eden uses that copper coil to absorb the heat they're actually deceasing the efficiency of the heater. The claims include: There are a few ways to use a portable electric heater to save money: Electric heaters are not an efficient way to heat a home cheaply. I just looked them up, and they are 42.99 plus 9.95 shipping. Zone heat is just that whether you use a single zone heater or have your central system set up that way. Amazon has some of the best prices on heaters and ships right to your door. I spent aA LOT of time researching!! Make the box sturdy enough to hold the weight of the unit. What a fiasco-I will never purchase anything from Edenpure or anything associated with Bob Villa. And third, it provides soft radiant heat that EVENLY spread around the room. The clue is in the word personal . Well, come to my house, put you hands in front of each item and we will see which one you pull away from first! So does anything else that uses 1500W of electricity, such as a $15 bathroom heater or a 1500W blow hair dryer. Larger units typically cost more, and other features and upgrades may drive the price up to . It just says if you use an Eden Pure heater to do "zone heating"I you will save money. I saw Bob Vila's very convincing infomercial and I agree that space heating rooms might be more efficient than a leaky whole-house system, and it does seem logical that one 1500 watt 5000 btu space heater shouldn't be any better than another, but I would be interested to know if any Eden Pure owners have actually found this second point to be true. All EdenPURE does is dress it up and jack the price to the stratosphere. The Amazon vendor that sells the $15.99 Lasko heater shown above wants $27.00 shipping! Less expensive models one have tubes. Keith Schroeder (author) from Wisconsin on November 01, 2011: It looks like we are starting another season of the heater scam. Out of stock at this time though. To reduce how much electricity or gas your hot water uses and bring your bills down, consider these tips: Turn down the thermostat: Many hot water heaters are set to 140 degrees by default, but 120 is plenty hot for most household uses, and creates less of a scalding risk.

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