Now it really should be the power 10 adding adding Time Vault to the list. This site works best with JavaScript enabled.

Press J to jump to the feed. It shuffles your graveyard which is helpful in some cases. Ads by Fandom. Channel was the only other turn 1 win card, and it was harder to set up. When magic was first released, there was no 4-of restriction (let alone a banned and restricted list), and decks were originally only 40 cards in size. Timetwister WAS an absolute powerhouse in an era of the game where it was much harder to get from 'comfortably ahead' to actually closing the game. Ads by Fandom. It's no secret that Timetwister is the worst of the bunch, but how did it make it into this famous club? Imagine having tons of moxes, black lotus, time walks, ancestral recalls, and timetwisters in a deck together. Eight of them are pretty straightforwardly broken, but he was wondering how Timewtister made the list. What should be the 9th Card on the Power 9? © 2020 MagicFind, Inc. All rights reserved. Thank you, the lack of the 4 copy restriction puts it in perspective. Timetwister should be replaced in the Power 9, but with what. If you're casting time walk and ancestral recall off of a bunch of free mana (including black lotus), if you get down to just a timetwister you can shuffle your time walks, recalls, and lotuses back into your (very small) deck, and draw 7 new cards. The card is great, but it's not so much more powerful that it can't be included in an unpowered environment. Imagine an opening hand with a black lotus, time twister, a land and some moxen on the play. I wouldn't. Or has the threshold for broken simply shifted over the years? My favorite being gush storm. This is why I don't understand banning the Power Nine in Cube. In fact, they really only augment your ability to use OTHER crazy cards to do silly things, so you should ban those ones first, if any. Going by tradition, Time Vault is the only card that makes sense. So if Timetwister is only powerful when played with the rest of the P9, can we safely say in the context of cube it isn't really a "powered" card - so an unpowered cube could play it? The main reason Timetwister specifically was included in the power nine was it was the first real "combo" card. It's part of the P9 because of it's power-level, not because of its other attributes. being blue makes it in over wheel of fortune or demonic tutor or sol ring, as does the fact that it was not printed in revised. Why is this discussion always a thing? When the game first came out there was no 4 card limit in decks and 20 Timetwister, 20 Black Lotus, 20 Lightning Bolt was a real thing that pretty much guaranteed a turn 1 win. I find this cards effect to be a huge gamble, that sometimes wins you the game on the spot. But would you play it in an unpowered cube? The Power 9 isnt a list of the most powerful cards printed in Magic, it just is what it is. From what I understand it can set up some really broken plays. A diverse community of players devoted to Magic: the Gathering, a trading card game ("TCG") produced by Wizards of the Coast and originally designed by Richard Garfield. I think everyone so far has missed the mark. Time Vault is really the only other one of the options that you could argue, but its been errata'd so many times that its history is pretty hard to keep track of and it was a trash card basically until 2008. If you want an "unpowered cube" you're going to have to cut a lot more than just those cards to encourage your players to sculpt "fair" decks. Incidentally, the most broken deck that has ever been legal is: 15 Black Lotus, 24 Time Twister, 1 Lightning Bolt. day's undoing - (G) (MC)[[cardname]] to call, Back when Timetwister was in print there were no mulligans (unless you had all land or no land). I actually tend to disagree with most when considering this to be the least powerful of the power. This site works best with JavaScript enabled. It only costs 2U to force your opponent to discard their hand before using it, reset your library and then draw 7 new cards, which you then get to use right away.

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